Is FoW worth it? - Guild Wars Forums

kintah tah · Aug 29, 2006, 11:59 AM // 11:59

Is FoW worth how much you spend on getting in?
What do u think is better UW farming or FoW faming for a warrior?
what is your best drop from FoW and ow mch is it worth?

Don Zardeone · Aug 29, 2006, 12:08 PM // 12:08

I would suggest playing all classes first. Once you know how it all works then you can reward yourself with fow armour.

Also, once you have multiple characters, you'll see your moneygain grinding to a halt because you spend the money you get on needed equipment like weapons, armours etc.

Fow is only worth it when you can spend excess (money you don't know what to do with anymore) on it.

If you only have 1 char then don't bother, people will accuse you of ebaying then anyway.

Hengis · Aug 29, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11

1) That is an entirely a matter of personal opinion. For some people it is worth it, for others it isn't. There is no correct answer to this question I am afraid.

2) There are usually more teams going to FoW looking for Warriors than teams going to UW looking for Warriors. UW is more often farmed by trapper ranger groups or Mo/W & N/Me duo farmers. This does not really reflect which area is better but more reflects the standard groups that are (rightly or wrongly) considered best for each area.

3) My best from FoW was a 14^50 chaos axe worth around 80K at the time. Not particularly wonderful as these things go, but it made the trip worthwhile :-)

Knightsaber Sith · Aug 29, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11

Personally, I don't think most of the fow armors look cool enough to warrant the cost. The ele, monk, and maybe rit are the only one's I'd say were worth the price. I much prefer the Kurzick 15k to the fow warr retarded bird helmet. But buy what you like

edit* just re-read op and realized you were talking more about just farming than armor. lol
Anyway, fow is better for farming on a warr as uw farmers usually don't take a whole team

JGaff · Aug 29, 2006, 12:16 PM // 12:16

I'd like to tack on a question to this to cut down on clutter.

When is the best time to grab a group in America for FoW "Forgemaster"

My Male Mesmer needs to grab his two pieces of armor and it never seems America can grab favor and hold it at a reasonable hour. Insight would be greatly appreicated here.

Blackhawk · Aug 29, 2006, 12:19 PM // 12:19

If you get a full team for FoW, it's normally 125g each unless you get a leech who wont chip in, so it's not going to break the bank.

I'll only go for a UW "team" if I know the Monk and/or the Necro as theres a lot of tossers about who'll just disappear and solo farm, so be careful when going UW, and if the Monk keeps quiet, is Mo/W /N or has a remotely sounding Chinese name, kick him out as 99.9999% chance he's a 55

@Jgaff, best time for America is around 2am GMT so work out what time zone your in and go from that.

BuD · Aug 29, 2006, 12:20 PM // 12:20

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Originally Posted by JGaff

When is the best time to grab a group in America for FoW "Forgemaster"

Late at night when the Europeans are sleeping lol

Kityn · Aug 29, 2006, 12:28 PM // 12:28

FOW keeps your skill playing sharp. You can tell right away between an expert and a novice player. The drops are not bad at all. 10k xp for a quest is the best way to get skill points. The quests are also challenging,basically makes most other missions and quests seem easy by comparison. And if you are into the FOW armor,obsidian shards are a must have.

huMptY DumPty · Aug 29, 2006, 12:33 PM // 12:33

It's entirely up to the individual........

Apparently...I'm wondering the same question... I'm not sure if I should buy my FoW for my ranger...monk...or warrior....

Is it worth it? or should I just collect weapons....

kintah tah · Aug 29, 2006, 12:46 PM // 12:46

its up to you..........
but personaly i would collect weaponds

shadow39365 · Aug 29, 2006, 04:10 PM // 16:10

whether it is worth it or not depends entirely on how well you do as a group, 1 shard drop means yes it is worth it as you make a minimum of 3k off a shard these days.

FoW farming is easier for a Warrior than UW farming, as with UW solo War farming you have to get into an awkward position to have one aatxe attacking you at a time, not as simple as just getting good at a build. However soloing FoW gets incredibly easy after a little while (spider run i mean) once you learn to avoid the Skales, and lure the driftwoods into the right places etc etc.

The Herbalizer · Aug 29, 2006, 04:19 PM // 16:19

Is 1.2 ish million gold alot to you?

Can you afford spending 1.2 million gold on armor?

Will you have gold left over after buying it?

Is the grind worth it (you may not need to grind for it)?

Have you played all the other character professions as some may be more fun to play?

The best place for a warrior to farm is drok troll cave or elona minos. A warrior can go in a group to uw or fow but its hardly farming. The chances of getting a perfect drop in either uw or fow are very slim too. A monk or necro is a better farming character. Monks can go uw with a necro and two man farm.

If you have only one character getting fow armor is kinda silly.

JGaff · Aug 29, 2006, 04:54 PM // 16:54

My Male Mesmer is grabbing two pieces, a Chest and some footwear. The gloves are hardly noticable and the pants can mostly be bluffed with some black dye, saving 600k. Keep that in mind when buying any armor sets that come with a price tag, ala 15k sets.

My other remaining questions (This has been a solid thread with quick replies, much appreciated) are how long is a forgemaster run in an average group and what should a Mesmer bring that would be the most effective overall?

The suggested time for America to enter and hopefully have favor is around 9-10pm at night, a time I usually start getting ready to turn in for the night (especially after 10 pm). It would be good to know the duration of the quests so as to not be caught up at 11:30 still playing with work the next morning. Also, when America does get favor, it lasts about 30 minutes and before I can get grouped we lose it. What Mesmer builds are worthy/known to the FoW PUG mentality? Some input might be good here too...

Thanks.

derrtyboy69 · Aug 29, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13

Jgaff, dont forget mesmer fow leggings have a crotch patch if you look closely, not the best looking thing in the world :/

Don Zardeone got it right in saying that you should make all of your characters perfect (multiple weapons sets for every attribute, every situation, superior vigor) before you buy fow

Vermin Farming (if u have factions) and fow spider runs are hands down the fastest money makers for warriors.

The Herbalizer · Aug 29, 2006, 05:34 PM // 17:34

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Originally Posted by derrtyboy69

Jgaff, dont forget mesmer fow leggings have a crotch patch if you look closely, not the best looking thing in the world :/

Don Zardeone got it right in saying that you should make all of your characters perfect (multiple weapons sets for every attribute, every situation, superior vigor) before you buy fow

Vermin Farming (if u have factions) and fow spider runs are hands down the fastest money makers for warriors.

Oo yeah totally forgot spider farming.

Yanman.be · Aug 29, 2006, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Fow is not worth it. 15K is not worth it. 1.5K is not worth is. presearing is not worth it. This game should be played naked, to remove all " my armour is better than yours " and all weapon skins should be the same.

JGaff · Aug 29, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47

I second Vermin farming for cash. Has made me 300k easily from a casual two hours here or there. It yields about 9-15k+ an hour depending on your luck and speed, etc. Wammos delight really.

@Derrty: What pants could you suggest wearing with FoW Male Mesmer armor?

Franco · Aug 29, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08

haha i give it up to the person who said it should be played naked LOL :P

Sirkaze · Aug 29, 2006, 06:15 PM // 18:15

I got Fow armor because i love the look's on the armor and its something to keep your mind on thing's, but before you get the armor make sure you know how you are going to get it in the first place.

Yes its worth it if you have the cash to blow on it or you would love to have it on your fave char.

Carth` · Aug 29, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Do you mean FoW armour or FoW the place. If you mean the armour, that is subjective. If you mean the place, then yes, it's worth it. In an average PUG you will spend 125g each on entry, and just from the gold you pick up and from selling all the stuff you get to the merchant you will make 2-3k, so you will make money rather than lose it.

Aug 29, 2006, 11:59 AM // 11:59	#1
kintah tah Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: VKON Profession: W/Mo	Is FoW worth it? Is FoW worth how much you spend on getting in? What do u think is better UW farming or FoW faming for a warrior? what is your best drop from FoW and ow mch is it worth?

Aug 29, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11	#4
Knightsaber Sith Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH] Profession: W/E	Personally, I don't think most of the fow armors look cool enough to warrant the cost. The ele, monk, and maybe rit are the only one's I'd say were worth the price. I much prefer the Kurzick 15k to the fow warr retarded bird helmet. But buy what you like edit* just re-read op and realized you were talking more about just farming than armor. lol Anyway, fow is better for farming on a warr as uw farmers usually don't take a whole team Last edited by Knightsaber Sith; Aug 29, 2006 at 12:15 PM // 12:15..

Aug 29, 2006, 12:19 PM // 12:19	#6
Blackhawk Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2006 Profession: N/	If you get a full team for FoW, it's normally 125g each unless you get a leech who wont chip in, so it's not going to break the bank. I'll only go for a UW "team" if I know the Monk and/or the Necro as theres a lot of tossers about who'll just disappear and solo farm, so be careful when going UW, and if the Monk keeps quiet, is Mo/W /N or has a remotely sounding Chinese name, kick him out as 99.9999% chance he's a 55 @Jgaff, best time for America is around 2am GMT so work out what time zone your in and go from that. Last edited by Blackhawk; Aug 29, 2006 at 12:27 PM // 12:27..

Aug 29, 2006, 04:19 PM // 16:19	#12
The Herbalizer <3 Ecto Join Date: Jul 2005	Is 1.2 ish million gold alot to you? Can you afford spending 1.2 million gold on armor? Will you have gold left over after buying it? Is the grind worth it (you may not need to grind for it)? Have you played all the other character professions as some may be more fun to play? The best place for a warrior to farm is drok troll cave or elona minos. A warrior can go in a group to uw or fow but its hardly farming. The chances of getting a perfect drop in either uw or fow are very slim too. A monk or necro is a better farming character. Monks can go uw with a necro and two man farm. If you have only one character getting fow armor is kinda silly. Last edited by The Herbalizer; Aug 29, 2006 at 04:22 PM // 16:22..

Aug 29, 2006, 12:08 PM // 12:08	#2
Don Zardeone Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005	I would suggest playing all classes first. Once you know how it all works then you can reward yourself with fow armour. Also, once you have multiple characters, you'll see your moneygain grinding to a halt because you spend the money you get on needed equipment like weapons, armours etc. Fow is only worth it when you can spend excess (money you don't know what to do with anymore) on it. If you only have 1 char then don't bother, people will accuse you of ebaying then anyway.

Aug 29, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11	#3
Hengis Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: London Guild: Better Than Life (BTL) Profession: R/	1) That is an entirely a matter of personal opinion. For some people it is worth it, for others it isn't. There is no correct answer to this question I am afraid. 2) There are usually more teams going to FoW looking for Warriors than teams going to UW looking for Warriors. UW is more often farmed by trapper ranger groups or Mo/W & N/Me duo farmers. This does not really reflect which area is better but more reflects the standard groups that are (rightly or wrongly) considered best for each area. 3) My best from FoW was a 14^50 chaos axe worth around 80K at the time. Not particularly wonderful as these things go, but it made the trip worthwhile :-)

Aug 29, 2006, 12:16 PM // 12:16	#5
JGaff Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: The Lotus Eaters Profession: Me/	I'd like to tack on a question to this to cut down on clutter. When is the best time to grab a group in America for FoW "Forgemaster" My Male Mesmer needs to grab his two pieces of armor and it never seems America can grab favor and hold it at a reasonable hour. Insight would be greatly appreicated here.

Aug 29, 2006, 12:28 PM // 12:28	#8
Kityn Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Guild: Heroes of the Horn [HoH] Profession: N/	FOW keeps your skill playing sharp. You can tell right away between an expert and a novice player. The drops are not bad at all. 10k xp for a quest is the best way to get skill points. The quests are also challenging,basically makes most other missions and quests seem easy by comparison. And if you are into the FOW armor,obsidian shards are a must have.

Aug 29, 2006, 12:33 PM // 12:33	#9
huMptY DumPty Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: [BAN] Profession: W/	It's entirely up to the individual........ Apparently...I'm wondering the same question... I'm not sure if I should buy my FoW for my ranger...monk...or warrior.... Is it worth it? or should I just collect weapons....

Aug 29, 2006, 12:46 PM // 12:46	#10
kintah tah Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: VKON Profession: W/Mo	its up to you.......... but personaly i would collect weaponds

Aug 29, 2006, 04:10 PM // 16:10	#11
shadow39365 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Guild: Angels Symphonys [AnSy]	whether it is worth it or not depends entirely on how well you do as a group, 1 shard drop means yes it is worth it as you make a minimum of 3k off a shard these days. FoW farming is easier for a Warrior than UW farming, as with UW solo War farming you have to get into an awkward position to have one aatxe attacking you at a time, not as simple as just getting good at a build. However soloing FoW gets incredibly easy after a little while (spider run i mean) once you learn to avoid the Skales, and lure the driftwoods into the right places etc etc.

Aug 29, 2006, 04:54 PM // 16:54	#13
JGaff Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: The Lotus Eaters Profession: Me/	My Male Mesmer is grabbing two pieces, a Chest and some footwear. The gloves are hardly noticable and the pants can mostly be bluffed with some black dye, saving 600k. Keep that in mind when buying any armor sets that come with a price tag, ala 15k sets. My other remaining questions (This has been a solid thread with quick replies, much appreciated) are how long is a forgemaster run in an average group and what should a Mesmer bring that would be the most effective overall? The suggested time for America to enter and hopefully have favor is around 9-10pm at night, a time I usually start getting ready to turn in for the night (especially after 10 pm). It would be good to know the duration of the quests so as to not be caught up at 11:30 still playing with work the next morning. Also, when America does get favor, it lasts about 30 minutes and before I can get grouped we lose it. What Mesmer builds are worthy/known to the FoW PUG mentality? Some input might be good here too... Thanks.

Aug 29, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13	#14
derrtyboy69 Grotto Attendant Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Clouds Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS] Profession: Mo/Me	Jgaff, dont forget mesmer fow leggings have a crotch patch if you look closely, not the best looking thing in the world :/ Don Zardeone got it right in saying that you should make all of your characters perfect (multiple weapons sets for every attribute, every situation, superior vigor) before you buy fow Vermin Farming (if u have factions) and fow spider runs are hands down the fastest money makers for warriors.

Aug 29, 2006, 05:37 PM // 17:37	#16
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	Fow is not worth it. 15K is not worth it. 1.5K is not worth is. presearing is not worth it. This game should be played naked, to remove all " my armour is better than yours " and all weapon skins should be the same.

Aug 29, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47	#17
JGaff Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: The Lotus Eaters Profession: Me/	I second Vermin farming for cash. Has made me 300k easily from a casual two hours here or there. It yields about 9-15k+ an hour depending on your luck and speed, etc. Wammos delight really. @Derrty: What pants could you suggest wearing with FoW Male Mesmer armor?

Aug 29, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08	#18
Franco Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England Guild: VoB Profession: Me/	haha i give it up to the person who said it should be played naked LOL :P

Aug 29, 2006, 06:15 PM // 18:15	#19
Sirkaze Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London/Uk Guild: The Lost Saracens Profession: E/Mo	I got Fow armor because i love the look's on the armor and its something to keep your mind on thing's, but before you get the armor make sure you know how you are going to get it in the first place. Yes its worth it if you have the cash to blow on it or you would love to have it on your fave char.

Aug 29, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19	#20
Carth` Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	Do you mean FoW armour or FoW the place. If you mean the armour, that is subjective. If you mean the place, then yes, it's worth it. In an average PUG you will spend 125g each on entry, and just from the gold you pick up and from selling all the stuff you get to the merchant you will make 2-3k, so you will make money rather than lose it.